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Titre: Level 22
Posté par: Swan le 1 Décembre 2006, 23:07:17
Rules :

- DO NOT post answers, links, screenshots or level's elements. You'll get banned if you spoil the pleasure of others, even if they ask for.

If you request some help :

Don't be too specific but don't be too vague. It's rather hard to find the right way to ask but imagine yourself in a room with other players. You can't whisper and you need to solve a riddle, you have the right to ask for a clue those who have already solved it, but you don't want the other players to find before you. To understand what you're asking for, one should be at the same step. Don't spoil the steps for the others ! You can use metaphors if you want. Show us that you're smart!

Read this topic carefully, your question may have already been asked (and answered). There's no need to ask the same question twice, even if there's no answer.

If you help somebody :

Don't help him too much, don't deprive him the pleasure to find by himself, just guide him on the way without being too specific, using as much images, metaphors and maybe other riddles as you can. After all, you're smart too ;)!

If everybody plays by the rules, things will be much more funny and no one will get hurt.

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Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Alienyst le 5 Décembre 2006, 14:02:06
I think I have figured out the process for this one.  However, none of the answers I arrive at are correct.  Very frustrating especially since it should be fairly straight forward once the sequence is known.  Hmmm....  The .*** clue may be the problem - in no font text I have installed do the characters agree with this clue and unlike the previous ones I seem to be unable to find it online as I did the others.  And if it is the same as a previous one, how come they do not match?


rodolfu: You just need usual font texts such as Arial or Times New Roman
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Toma le 5 Décembre 2006, 14:05:15
Are you using a laptop?
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Alienyst le 5 Décembre 2006, 19:00:05
Actually a Tablet PC...
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: phreakymonkey le 6 Décembre 2006, 07:57:39
It might help to imagine you're using a Mac.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Swan le 6 Décembre 2006, 11:44:00
If you managed to do level 06, you should know the name of characters, you can use google to find what you can't do with your computer.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Algo le 8 Décembre 2006, 21:50:41
I think I understand what to do. I'm having trouble with the "XOR" portion of the puzzle. I seem unable to get the same results on repeat attempts, and the lack of consistency is maddening. Is it normal to get different results?
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: glouton le 9 Décembre 2006, 00:21:54
Hi Algo,

There's only one result possible if you do each step properly.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: luman le 9 Décembre 2006, 10:28:22
my friend wishes to ask "does the xor key contain the same number of characters as the final answer?"
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: glouton le 9 Décembre 2006, 11:28:47
Yes it does. The number of characters stays the same from end to end.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: colquhoun22 le 9 Décembre 2006, 19:17:37
I still can't figure out how to change the last step back into something useful.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: glouton le 9 Décembre 2006, 22:44:28
I guess you're missing a step after the "XOR". Don't forget what you've done before it.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: lolhypocrisy le 9 Décembre 2006, 23:29:11
I got it now. I was using Notepad and the symbols didn't show up until after I saved the document and edited that, for whatever reason.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: pica27 le 10 Décembre 2006, 09:08:38
is it possible to figure out #22 while on a mac?

phreakymonkey: For any mac-related questions, first check here (https://web.archive.org/web/20170715124717/http://forum.ouverture-facile.com/viewtopic.php?id=165). If your questions aren't answered in that thread, PM me for help.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: glouton le 10 Décembre 2006, 10:00:57
If you do pass the previous level I don't see anything that could bother you even with a mac. It should work on any OS
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: GSX115 le 10 Décembre 2006, 10:14:13
i think im using the xor key correctly but i cant seem to figure out what to do with the other key... i dont have any fonts that correspond to it
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Arwen le 10 Décembre 2006, 11:53:59
If you suceed to level 6, you should know what to do. All you juste have to do is to follow arrows :)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: oreocrumble le 10 Décembre 2006, 22:50:16
I obviously succeded level 6 and I can look at arrows but I can't figure out how to relate these things.  I also have no idea what XOR thing is.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: glouton le 11 Décembre 2006, 01:05:51
Hi oreocrumble,

I will not explain you all the steps because you actually just have to follow the arrows and you succeded required passed levels. About the XOR thing, just ask your best friend, there's always his formfield on the clue page when he may be usefull.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: giega le 12 Décembre 2006, 19:36:35
And full numeric keypad is a must. If you have just a laptop keyboard, it may take some more thinking...

glouton : post move from "Your opinion" to here where I think it's more its place.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: riceman le 13 Décembre 2006, 06:15:17
Ack! So I have the numbers ready for the xor conversion, but I can't figure out what the xor key word means.
I think I have everything else, but how do I translate u****** **** ***?

rodolfu: I've deleted a part of your comment because it spoiled a part of the riddle. So you were right!
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: rodolfu le 13 Décembre 2006, 07:33:44
Life is a constant succession of new beginnings ;)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: TookiTheGreat le 15 Décembre 2006, 00:19:07
I must be totally looking at level 22 in the wrong way. Following the clue I think I know how to get from URL to DECIMAL to BINARY - that seems to be pretty straightforward. But the XOR bit freaks me out. I think I know what to XOR, but what do I XOR it with? The arrows suggest I can get from level 20 to XOR-"key", but how? Nothing works ... I'm going crazy ... HELP!!!!
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: phreakymonkey le 15 Décembre 2006, 05:21:09
There's a slightly hidden step in there. Check out XOR on Wikipedia.

Edit - Toma : And open your eyes wider
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: divisortheory le 18 Décembre 2006, 17:11:34
I don't really understand the clue for this one.  I mean obviously I can relate it to the steps I went through for Level 6 and Level 20, but there are multiple ways to interpret the clue.  Moreoever, I know for sure how many characters are contained in the xor key, and I can't find a common aspect of Levels 6 and 20 that both contain the same number of characters.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: phreakymonkey le 18 Décembre 2006, 18:29:00
This is one of the most straightforward puzzles you'll run into. If what you're doing on any particular step seems strange or wrong, it probably is. Change your approach.

Read the thread carefully.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Falcon4 le 20 Décembre 2006, 06:37:17
Hmm... okay, let me see if I can throw my expertise into this one. Solved it without even having to look at the forum. LOL!!

A text-to-binary translator WILL COME IN HANDY on this one. Google will be your friend there (think "the answer is obvious" here when you want to know what to search for)

From there, CALC (Windows calculator) WILL COME IN HANDY too. You will want to use "S*********c and "B****y" modes. Use the buttons in the same way you would solve 2 [ + ] 2 [=] (4).

Finally, the result you get from that does not relate to l***** p*******s (like the burger/french fry level). Between the window and the space you can type what you want...

And that's all I can say about that. :P

(edit: Err, okay, except that you SHOULD be using Windows Notepad for the final entry, AND the font you use DOES have a major impact on your result! Try the default font...)

Edit - Toma : I've hidden some parts of your message. Let's not reveal everything at once ;)

Last edited by Falcon4 (2006-12-20 06:37:59)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Bull le 23 Décembre 2006, 11:32:33
I'm stuck on this one.  I've spent a couple days now, but have pretty much exhausted my thoughts.
I have gotten through a few steps, although I don't know if any of my answers for those steps are correct.
I can get to the last step, but then I am lost as to what I do with the last key.  I'm guessing that this means that I am not doing some previous steps correctly.
One poster said that the number of characters is the same from beginning to end.  Does this mean that I should be getting 7 characters after each and every step?  I am coming out of one or two of the steps with numbers...
Any help appreciated...
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: glouton le 23 Décembre 2006, 16:22:43
Hi,

by characters I mean letters. The number of figures during the numeric steps is not the same but the number of numbers is.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: phreakymonkey le 24 Décembre 2006, 04:16:52
I'd like to make it clear that it's perfectly possible to do this whole puzzle by hand. You're just as likely to confuse yourself even more if you start plugging things willy-nilly into random converters online. Take a little time to read up on what you're doing and you will do well.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: kRaZyK!Rb le 24 Décembre 2006, 15:11:31
Citation de: giegaAnd full numeric keypad is a must. If you have just a laptop keyboard, it may take some more thinking...

glouton : post move from "Your opinion" to here where I think it's more its place.
Since, I am using a laptop, can someone point me in the right direction? I'm down to the last key and my xor result just doesn't seem to add up to anything meaningful!!
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Keza le 24 Décembre 2006, 15:35:33
Citation de: krazykirb wrote:

giegaAnd full numeric keypad is a must. If you have just a laptop keyboard, it may take some more thinking...

glouton : post move from "Your opinion" to here where I think it's more its place.

Since, I am using a laptop, can someone point me in the right direction? I'm down to the last key and my xor result just doesn't seem to add up to anything meaningful!!

If you're stuck with a laptop keyboard with no way of using a numpad, you might want to look up what the numpad on a PC keyboard does, and how you could use it to your advantage.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: glouton le 25 Décembre 2006, 17:14:31
Many have pased this level without any previous specific knowledge. Note that you can't "xor" something you only "xor" one thing with another. Once you've got those things, read again your search results and it should appears as easy as one and one is two.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: chomper le 3 Janvier 2007, 00:16:02
Hello, I've managed to work out everything up to the last step, i have some seemingly unusual set of 7 letters and I'm trying to work out how to use the last step to make sense of them.

Any hints?
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: phreakymonkey le 3 Janvier 2007, 09:01:09
Sounds like you've added a step that wasn't there.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: zymish le 5 Janvier 2007, 06:04:14
I tried converting "un*****" into BINARY and using the BINARY characters as the key, then converting the results into HEX, and those results into ASCII, but the answer isn't actually a word, and it doesn't work as the password. I didn't get stuck for anywhere over an hour on "japanese" or even on the front, left and right chatrooms, but this one has me stumped. Am I making it more complicated than it is, or am I doing something wrong? Am I missing a step?

Last edited by zymish (2007-01-05 06:41:53)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: kRaZyK!Rb le 5 Janvier 2007, 06:44:12
Citation de: zymishAm I making it more complicated than it is, or am I doing something wrong?
No and yes.


Citation de: zymishAm I missing a step?
More than likely.

The answer lies in the clue. To understand the clue, is to understand the riddle.
Have you tried reading all the previous post to this thread? This thread should really be closed.
There are more than enough clues given.   :)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: JAP591 le 6 Janvier 2007, 02:28:47
alright, i got a little ways, but i dont understand the XOR stuff at all. Ive read through wikipedia, and its just jibberish to me so i am stuck
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: giega le 6 Janvier 2007, 03:20:35
Windows Calculator->View Scientific
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Riddler le 6 Janvier 2007, 11:24:05
Hi all,

I think I understand the steps in the Clue - Converting from u** to D** to B***** is simple enough providing you have the correct U**

And that's my problem, I'm getting lost in the U** some place - is it the U**'s for each of Level 06 and 20?  and if so...is it the complete U** or just the f*******?  and then with or without the e********?

can someone point me in the right direction?  Seems every combination i've tried leads nowhere.

Thanx in advance
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: JHolla le 6 Janvier 2007, 11:32:15
Look where the first arrow is coming from.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Krickett le 6 Janvier 2007, 19:11:28
ok I have scoured this board and I'm feeling mighty dim witted I sure do need a nudge I have converted the u** to d** then b** but don't have a clue what to use for the xor key. Hey I'm not even sure I am working with the right u** to begin with although I have seen the 7 letter reference often enough to think I am ok there. So I guess I just need a nudge to figure out what to use for the xor key I think,,,lol
Any response would be appreciated.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: giega le 6 Janvier 2007, 19:16:48
http://www.tamuk.edu/distancelearning/t ... adjust.htm (https://web.archive.org/web/20070224214435/http://www.tamuk.edu/distancelearning/tt_monitor_adjust.htm)

or

http://epaperpress.com/monitorcal/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20070224214435/http://epaperpress.com/monitorcal/)

Last edited by giega (2007-01-06 21:22:28)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: manofmiftery le 8 Janvier 2007, 02:11:28
Never mind, I got it, the chart I was using was wrong >:( then i googled again got a better chart, this one worked, phew. I knew I did it right.

Last edited by manofmiftery (2007-01-08 02:13:43)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: phreakymonkey le 8 Janvier 2007, 02:11:59
If you're having trouble finding information on a certain encryption subject, try adding the word 'cipher' to your query.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: hell_puppy le 8 Janvier 2007, 14:03:08
This puzzle was easy, I just couldn't convert to the right character set until i did it in notepad.

I'm pleading with you. USE NOTEPAD for the last conversion.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: phreakymonkey le 8 Janvier 2007, 15:53:07
I've had several PMs about this, so I want to make it absolutely clear: there is a difference between ASCII (which is a character set) and the method used on Level 6, and it makes a world of difference which you use. If you use windows, there is no excuse not to do it in notepad (see above). A Google search for the correct terms will help you if you do not.

edit: Apparently I haven't made myself clear enough - ASCII tables will not help you! That is not the method used on Level 6.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: SamXp le 10 Janvier 2007, 20:41:32
Citation de: phreakymonkeyI've had several PMs about this, so I want to make it absolutely clear: there is a difference between ASCII (which is a character set) and the method used on Level 6, and it makes a world of difference which you use. If you use windows, there is no excuse not to do it in notepad (see above). A Google search for the correct terms will help you if you do not.

edit: Apparently I haven't made myself clear enough - ASCII tables will not help you! That is not the method used on Level 6.
This is SO critical. I wish I would have read this 3 hours ago!
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: lizasand le 11 Janvier 2007, 20:32:10
look closely into the page, there are things you may not see at first sight...conversion might come handy as well...
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: dtle007 le 13 Janvier 2007, 07:43:36
helping out the noobs cause I think people are using too muich terminology incorrectly.

phreakymonkey: This is true.

Anyway all you need to do is as the clue says,
take URL > DECIMAL > BINARY.

but this step is misleading as most converters will do it in one step from URL > BINARY.

phreakymonkey: Which is why you shouldn't use them! See below.

after you're able to get the XOR key, this is what you do!   Your Answer (URL>BINARY) + XOR KEY = next answer.

How to XOR?   Here's how.... ****************************  <------ this is where people all say you do it by hand or on paper.

Just look it up, people. If you can't figure this out on your own with Google or some other method, you aren't going to get very far in this game.

Above steps require a coverter, this step doesn't or isn't require.

No, no converter is necessary at all in this level, as I (and others (https://web.archive.org/web/20070224214435/http://forum.ouverture-facile.com/viewtopic.php?pid=1892#p1892)) have stated (https://web.archive.org/web/20070224214435/http://forum.ouverture-facile.com/viewtopic.php?pid=1156#p1156) over (https://web.archive.org/web/20070224214435/http://forum.ouverture-facile.com/viewtopic.php?pid=1326#p1326) and over (https://web.archive.org/web/20070224214435/http://forum.ouverture-facile.com/viewtopic.php?pid=1364#p1364) again (https://web.archive.org/web/20070224214435/http://forum.ouverture-facile.com/viewtopic.php?pid=1542#p1542). You can find several tutorials on decimal to binary conversion with a quick google search, and that way you don't have to trust converters that are performing invisible processes and giving you outputs in who knows what format.

Last step hopefully you can figure out or just pm me.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: victoria le 13 Janvier 2007, 23:58:07
Okay, so...

I converted d****** and u****** each to a**** then to b***** then i XORed them. now im stuck because once i convert the resulting b***** numbers to decimal the decimal numbers i get do not coincide with the a**** table i found. of course i am reading now that it is not a**** that is used on level 6, and i can see that, BUT i cannot for the life of me figure out what they do use on level 6 OR what is going on with all this talk about using notepad or how using a laptop could be a burdon.

personally i am using a mac with a full keyboard, but no notepad, sooooo, help me please!!

i have been on this level for almost 5 days now and i want to figure it out without using a spoiler.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: kRaZyK!Rb le 14 Janvier 2007, 00:16:05
Citation de: victoriapersonally i am using a mac with a full keyboard, but no notepad, sooooo, help me please!!
The reason you're stuck is because you're not following the clue! Instead, you've chosen to go by what everyone else is doing on this forum. Follow the clue, it will put you on the right path!  ;)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Neo155 le 14 Janvier 2007, 22:33:04
Hello, I'm new to these forums. I've been stuck on 22 for a couple days now, and I have had several ideas on how to solve it from reading this thread. I think I understand the last comment about "stop doing what everyone else is doing and follow the path". I was wondering if I could PM someone with my idea to see if I'm on the right track. I was no where near familiar with XOR (or any of the other tools used by levels 6 and 20) until this puzzle forced me to do some reasearch lol. Thanks a bunch and good luck to all.

kRaZyKiRb: You don't need permission to reach out to any moderator! From the home page of the forum, towards the bottoms, you'll be able to see which moderators are currently on. Their names are in blue!!  ;)


Edit - Toma : Topic cleaned - 01-15-07
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Evilplayground le 15 Janvier 2007, 21:37:47
I havent got a clue either.  I've been converting left right and center...now I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do to be able to utilize the second .*** page table
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: giega le 15 Janvier 2007, 21:39:45
Convert once more ;)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: fitzgibbon le 16 Janvier 2007, 12:20:48
this one is killing me.
so here's what i did.
took a certain 7 letter word, and exchanged it for 1's and 0's.
then i took another 7 letter word from a hint, and exchanged it for 1's and 0's.
i compared the 2 sets of 1's and 0's, and got a new set of 1's and 0's.

i guess i'm stuck on the 2nd "Level 6" step of this puzzle.
this is as far as i've gotten.
i can convert this 3rd set into decimal numbers, but the numbers don't seem to correlate to anything.
am i inventing a step that doesn't exist?


am i using the right 7 letter words (they share a certain theme)?
also, i found an alphabetical legend, but i don't know what it means.... are those symbols in some other font?

i read that an ASCII chart is unnecessary, but doesn't that give you the decimal form for individual text characters?

phreakymonkey: Although it may overlap in places with the technique for Level 6, it is not the same, and is completely useless here.

somebody wanna throw me a life-ring on this one??
thanks
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Arwen le 16 Janvier 2007, 12:30:10
the 3rd set converted in decimal correlate to something. remember level 6, all the level. the table will be used when you find what i said before.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: victoria le 16 Janvier 2007, 20:17:21
i am wondering if the answer has anything to do with the word et cetera (from the clue) or the abbreviation of it as writting in the clue - etc...  ??
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: giega le 16 Janvier 2007, 20:20:20
Clue tells you exactly what to do. Riddle is a guide/help for the solution.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: zAlbee le 17 Janvier 2007, 10:11:08
Count the number of letters in your answer! It doesn't sound like anyone had the problem I did, but if you do... count the letters! There should be the same number as you started with.

When I did it, I just wrote a short C program and ran it from the command line, which was all nice and easy EXCEPT the last symbol was a non-printing character :-(. I have no idea why - it prints perfectly fine in Notepad. So I found the answer, minus the invisible last letter, (which is still an English word!), and couldn't figure out why it wasn't working. That was annoying :(.

BTW: I would stop suggesting Level 6 as a clue. Chances are you didn't use the same method in Level 6 as the one that's required for this one.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Ande le 17 Janvier 2007, 11:21:13
ok..i guess i finished this lvl  but ..then i come to lvl 1 again..but this time the url is different...
is that the normal way??
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Arwen le 17 Janvier 2007, 11:25:03
errrr no, it's not the normal way ....... can you PM me with the URLs you have and what you have done ?
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: tizzel le 17 Janvier 2007, 14:08:57
I have the same problem like Ande... when you "xored" the b***** c**** will you get a word like "pizza" or only letters?
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: giega le 17 Janvier 2007, 15:04:05
Best is to try ;)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: imz le 18 Janvier 2007, 05:48:49
I do NOT get how we are to use notpad for this...someone please fill me in

How is notepad recommended/used for the last conversion..b/c I think i'm at that point..and I don't see how notepad helps :(
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: kRaZyK!Rb le 18 Janvier 2007, 07:37:09
No worries, this level can be achieved with out notepad.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: nike t le 20 Janvier 2007, 02:50:54
I'm stuck, I've XOR'ed the numbers to get a new set of numbers and then converted them into decimal form.  Now I have no clue what to do, can someone give me a little hint please?
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: kRaZyK!Rb le 20 Janvier 2007, 03:05:09
Citation de: nike tI'm stuck, I've XOR'ed the numbers to get a new set of numbers and then converted them into decimal form.  Now I have no clue what to do, can someone give me a little hint please?
Simple, follow the arrows on the main page!
You've done this on one of the previous levels!
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: bballa48 le 21 Janvier 2007, 06:00:40
I have the the final d*****l code of numbers and just have to bridge the gap here.  Now I will admit that I know the final solution due to help from a friend, since I was SO close, however I am very curious as to how the last set of numbers converts into the s******s that are on the ***.png page.  A private message would be GREATLY appreciated, and yes, I have read the entire forum and have tried about every f**t I can find to match the numbers.

kRaZyKiRb: shouldn't YOU PM me with YOUR question?  :)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: q00u le 21 Janvier 2007, 08:28:36
Citation de: phreakymonkeyedit: Apparently I haven't made myself clear enough - ASCII tables will not help you! That is not the method used on Level 6.
Huh?  I used an ASCII table for two steps on this level.  It's not used every step, but it is used.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: nosh le 21 Janvier 2007, 08:40:19
i used an ascii table to solve level six and it worked fine... i used it for this level, and now im on 55. so i dont know what you mean by saying that it doesnt work

Added Sun Jan 21 08:46:25 2007 :

Citation de: gloutonMany have pased this level without any previous specific knowledge. Note that you can't "xor" something you only "xor" one thing with another. Once you've got those things, read again your search results and it should appears as easy as one and one is two.
in this case it should appear as easy as 1 xor 1 = 0 ;)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: bigshot le 24 Janvier 2007, 00:34:54
I have figure out everything except how to convert to the contents of the final hint, i believe i  am on the right track and would enjoy a person who can help.


Edited by kRaZyKiRb

Last edited by bigshot (2007-01-24 02:08:29)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: kRaZyK!Rb le 24 Janvier 2007, 02:36:07
Citation de: bigshotI have figure out everything except how to convert to the contents of the final hint, i believe i  am on the right track and would enjoy a person who can help.
follow the arrows, you've probably been following the arrows in the clue page. At this point it's time to revert to the main level page. :)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: omnislash le 24 Janvier 2007, 11:38:48
i have converted both u****** then d******  to decimal then to binary xor'ed them back to decimal then typed them with *** and used the key to translate them back into text and i still have the wrong answer. where did i go wrong?

Toma : Don't give answers please
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Frequently Confused le 25 Janvier 2007, 19:23:11
I think I must have gone somewhere, so can I just check: is the second key needed to turn letters into a word using some sort of font, or is it to translate a word from otherwise meaningless symbols?
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: giega le 25 Janvier 2007, 19:40:37
Once you do all the necessary steps, you will need the second key to get an answer. And no, it's not a special font, it's what you may get after final conversion ;)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Frequently Confused le 25 Janvier 2007, 19:51:55
OH! I've figured it, but I can't See (if that makes sense). I get a whole lot of rectangles. What can I do to solve that little issue?
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: kRaZyK!Rb le 25 Janvier 2007, 20:01:36
Citation de: Frequently ConfusedOH! I've figured it, but I can't See (if that makes sense). I get a whole lot of rectangles. What can I do to solve that little issue?
Unless I'm mistaken, I think you're having an issue where whatever you're using to keep notes, does not display the text needed.

If this is the case,
    please try notepad
else,
    pm me what you're seeing.
End if

:P
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: freunders le 25 Janvier 2007, 23:37:12
im having the same problem as frequently confused... i have a string of seemingly random letters and no proper conversion in notepad. notepad is really pissing me off because ive read this thread over and over again and am under the impression that this final notepad conversion is the key to the level. wtf.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: glouton le 25 Janvier 2007, 23:42:05
The real key is your brain, then Notepad or any text editor shall do it.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Frequently Confused le 26 Janvier 2007, 18:27:00
I don't have notepad, and as far as I know I don't have any other text editor that does it. I know what to do, I just don't have the means. I've tried the internet but I get the same problem as before - rectangles. How can I move on?
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: giega le 26 Janvier 2007, 18:37:02
Citation de: Frequently ConfusedI don't have notepad, and as far as I know I don't have any other text editor that does it. I know what to do, I just don't have the means. I've tried the internet but I get the same problem as before - rectangles. How can I move on?
If you need to type your resume, what do you do?
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Judas le 26 Janvier 2007, 21:13:03
if you don't have notepad, just use pen and paper; it works just as well. but on a side note, how do you read .txt files?
i still have all my hand written notes and attempts from the first 30 stages. but things were everywhere, so i use notepad now and keep things in seperate folders.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: ValpoKC le 27 Janvier 2007, 04:47:01
i have numbers...i just don't know what ones to xor.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: kRaZyK!Rb le 27 Janvier 2007, 08:50:17
Citation de: ValpoKCi have numbers...i just don't know what ones to xor.
Chances are you have to XOR them all! :)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: aggravated le 31 Janvier 2007, 01:02:01
ok, when I typed in the wrong answer into the box, the error url always said e****
is this in any way significant?
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: kRaZyK!Rb le 31 Janvier 2007, 01:09:43
Citation de: aggravatedok, when I typed in the wrong answer into the box, the error url always said e****
is this in any way significant?
No. Nothing but the right answer will matter! :)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: loki le 31 Janvier 2007, 05:02:16
ok, im pretty sure i know what to do but i just can't figure out the XOR thing. i found an online decryptor but it asks for the XOR length. i don't know what that means. however, using the XOR length of 1 i was able to go through all the steps and be able to match some of the symbols to the key. however, at the end, some of the symbols dont match up...can anyone help guide me with my Xor problems?
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: nosh le 31 Janvier 2007, 05:05:27
your problem is simple, your using online decrypters, take a little time and read up on what you need to do
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: loki le 31 Janvier 2007, 18:58:31
i tried lookng up XOR but i still dont understand. this puzzle is easy except for the Xor part, i just dont understand it. can someone please PM me and help me figure out XOR?
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: giega le 31 Janvier 2007, 19:05:50
Use Windows Calculator or any scientific calculator. It's easier than explaining.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: zolih le 6 Février 2007, 01:37:22
Hi !

I have read through this topic 3 times. but I dont know what to do.
First I made the most popular method ( the "7letters" to decimal ->binary-> xor with u*****d) but no result.
then i have read the clue tell us everything. ok I just used the clue ("3letters" to decimal...etc) but no result.

Someone said that we shouldnt use ascii, in this case how can we make numbers from the letters. First I thought that we must you the lettercode at level 6 (numbers- letters) but there are lletters that missing.
And there are no more methods(ascii and lettercode) used at level6. So I dont know what to do.

Can anyone help me? Thx!

(ps: I have a laptop it is a problem?     Is it any coherency with the  theme "music" -d*****l, u*****d)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Kiara le 6 Février 2007, 01:47:23
Citation de: zolihHi !

I have read through this topic 3 times. but I dont know what to do.
First I made the most popular method ( the "7letters" to decimal ->binary-> xor with u*****d) but no result.
then i have read the clue tell us everything. ok I just used the clue ("3letters" to decimal...etc) but no result.

Someone said that we shouldnt use ascii, in this case how can we make numbers from the letters. First I thought that we must you the lettercode at level 6 (numbers- letters) but there are lletters that missing.
And there are no more methods(ascii and lettercode) used at level6. So I dont know what to do.

Can anyone help me? Thx!

(ps: I have a laptop it is a problem?     Is it any coherency with the  theme "music" -d*****l, u*****d)
it'll work on any computer :) you don't have to use an ascii table... just something that'll help you decipher the words... and, as you might've read in the previous posts, the answer will have the same number of letters as the words used to find it...
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: zolih le 6 Février 2007, 02:05:49
"just something that'll help you decipher the words..."

yeah but level6 doesnt contain any help...
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: giega le 6 Février 2007, 02:08:49
Citation de: zolih"just something that'll help you decipher the words..."

yeah but level6 doesnt contain any help...
How did you solve it then?
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: zolih le 6 Février 2007, 02:26:54
Citation de: giega
Citation de: zolih"just something that'll help you decipher the words..."

yeah but level6 doesnt contain any help...
How did you solve it then?
first I tried to use ascii (like at level6).no result.

But now i made it. :))

Last edited by zolih (2007-02-06 02:27:08)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: koleypunch le 6 Février 2007, 04:27:14
okay I am so close. I am pretty sure I got the XOR part and when I do what I have to do with that, I get the sqaures like everyone else, and I am using notepad. Can I PM someone to see if I am on the right track?
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: giega le 6 Février 2007, 14:28:14
Citation de: koleypunchokay I am so close. I am pretty sure I got the XOR part and when I do what I have to do with that, I get the sqaures like everyone else, and I am using notepad. Can I PM someone to see if I am on the right track?
Change font to Arial. And keep trying.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: jzero23 le 6 Février 2007, 22:42:41
Citation de: gloutonMany have pased this level without any previous specific knowledge. Note that you can't "xor" something you only "xor" one thing with another. Once you've got those things, read again your search results and it should appears as easy as one and one is two.
or one and one are zero, as it were
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: soccerboy le 7 Février 2007, 23:02:42
ok, so ive been having some trouble with this one...
im pretty sure i know what to start out with, and im pretty sure of how to do most of the steps, but im not sure what im supposed to do with the initial word; the second step is confusing me.

and i do "hear" the clues ................. any pointers?
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Tyler Durden le 7 Février 2007, 23:49:50
The xor algorithm is pretty easy. I can only repeat the previous comments: don't use online xor converting programs, they only confuse you. The windows calculator is your friend :)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Diredire le 13 Février 2007, 07:04:23
i've read all of the replies.

i converted 'd******' and 'u******', and i XORed. too. i think it was easy to find it out...  and i saw the some code which was shown by ***.P**

i converted all of clues using the window culculator. some of that were changed by myself.

but, i have some problem connect this clue with 'something' that i have to find out.

i've no idea how to do with 'it', right now. :-(

is there something else to do before reaching the '***.P**' page?

show me the way plz...


===================

wow...

i thaguht again what i did at 'level6'.

i have done it just before.

Last edited by Diredire (2007-02-13 11:47:09)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Dark Light le 14 Février 2007, 23:40:14
Hey, How do you change the URL into decimal???
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: nike t le 14 Février 2007, 23:42:13
Charts online will help with that
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Dark Light le 15 Février 2007, 00:21:36
ok, I changed them to d****** the to b***** but i dont know how to change it to Xor on the Calc.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Kiara le 15 Février 2007, 00:36:42
Citation de: Dark Lightok, I changed them to d****** the to b***** but i dont know how to change it to Xor on the Calc.
if you know what xor is you should know that you don't need a calculator for it :) just use a notepad
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Dark Light le 15 Février 2007, 00:48:09
ON the windows calc. tho it sais Xor isn`t that it?
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Kiara le 15 Février 2007, 01:06:47
Citation de: Dark LightON the windows calc. tho it sais Xor isn`t that it?
0.o ... i don't know... probably... but trust me, it's a whole lot easier to just look it up and do it by hand
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Dark Light le 15 Février 2007, 01:15:45
Ok, this is what I did.  I took the word D****** changed it into D****a* then that into B***** and I put the numbers on windows calculator and put X** button between them all then it gave me a number

am I going the right way??

Last edited by Dark Light (2007-02-15 01:56:09)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Kiara le 15 Février 2007, 02:40:15
Citation de: Dark LightOk, this is what I did.  I took the word D****** changed it into D****a* then that into B***** and I put the numbers on windows calculator and put X** button between them all then it gave me a number

am I going the right way??
pm  me what you got and i'll help you
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Dark_T le 22 Février 2007, 19:02:41
1)I turned the word from the 1st arrow into d****a* then b***** by hand.recheck with text-to-binary converter and got the same result
2)turned the other word givven into b*****
3) XOR the 1st with the 2nd and got a new b*****. recheck with xor on win calc
4a)converter gives some rectangles that cant be done anything with any editor -->dead end
4b)d****a* gives some letters all consonants
what am i doing wrong? any help PM me

Last edited by Dark_T (2007-02-22 19:04:13)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: RainyDayzEver le 23 Février 2007, 03:34:41
yeah i finally woke up and it's already 11am

and lvl22 is still a hard thing to solve

i checked every posts on this forum

moreover i do know what 'decimal', 'binary', 'XOR', 'Ascii Codes' and 'conversion' means exactly.

but i'm stucked and i really don't know the 'progress' to make it right

actually i needed no helps from previous lvls but this time i need some..

no one seems to be online but any PM will help me...
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: MzHartz le 25 Février 2007, 00:30:36
Aha, finally figured this one out!  A few tips:
An arrow can point from something as well as to something.
Be sure to read the whole question and look at all the available data before you think something works wrong.
If you're learning something new, Wikipedia can be your friend.  And I've found that I learn better by figuring out what the example is trying to show me than trying to decipher the text in this particular wikipedia article.
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Ahem le 26 Février 2007, 07:26:10
I'm almost at the end of this one, I did all of the conversions but just can't seem to get the last string of d******* to the little s****** that you need to compare to the .jpg chart.  I've checked x** key, ASCII, and Unicode charts but I can't find any symbols that look as though they match.  It can't be as tricky as I'm making it.  Is there a specific encoding I need or what?  Should I convert to h******** and try to compare it to charts then? (which I'm going to try right now anyway, just in case).

EDIT: Haha, oh wow, coming back to it this morning I found the chart I needed right away. >.> I've solved it now.  I could've sworn I checked x** key combinations, but oh well.

For everyone else: Yes, don't waste time with ASCII.  It's probably there, but other charts are easier to use.

Last edited by Ahem (2007-02-26 16:34:47)
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: Azazel le 26 Février 2007, 12:05:10
It doesn't work in notepad (nor UltraEdit32, I might add). Think back to level 6's clue if that might help you (also the reason why Mac users could experience problem on that one).
Titre: Re: Level 22
Posté par: tadfg le 16 Septembre 2022, 10:29:43
well ive searched up XOR key on wiki, but i dont have any clue as to wot it dus....
i cant seem to understand how to convert using XOR key, can some1 pm an explanation??